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Andreas Antonopoulos: A Bitcoin ETF is a “Terrible Idea”

Andreas M. Antonopoulos, one of the most respected and active personalities within the Bitcoin ecosystem, shared his impressions this week regarding the consequences that an approval of a Bitcoin ETF could have for the crypto ecosystem.

In his popular video series “Bitcoin Q&A”, Antonopoulos referred to the matter as a hot topic that was constantly addressed in his Patreon session, which took place on July 28th 2018.

In Antonopoulos’ words, an ETF facilitates financial operations for investors, without having to manage a specific asset:

“The idea here is to take a reserve of bitcoins and then make them tradeable instruments that can be traded on traditional markets like stocks. This is a custodial reserve system, where the custodian holds the actual bitcoin and what you’re getting is a share in their fund — not bitcoin.

It allows traditional / institutional investors to dabble in the bitcoin price, speculate on bitcoin, without actually holding bitcoin or having to open an exchange account and deal with complex things like keys, addresses, hardware tokens, and all of those things”.

Andreas Antonopoulos

The idea of a Bitcoin ETF raises great expectations in the community because it has the potential to attract a massive exposure of this crypto to large capitals. Based on past experiences (such as the gold market) the approval of an ETF has caused an increase in prices and trading volumes.

However, Mr Antonopulos questions the level of convenience of a Bitcoin ETF for the ecosystem. In the video he says such a proposal can be counterproductive even though his ideas may “burst the bubble” of many Bitcoin ETF promoters:

” I’m going to burst your bubble.

I know a lot of people really want to see an ETF happen because “to the moon and lambos!” But I think it is a terrible idea. I still think it is going to happen, I just think it is a terrible idea.

I’m actually against ETFs.I think a Bitcoin ETF is going to be damaging to the ecosystem.”

For Antonpoulos, the ease that ETFs provide in traditional markets represents a damage to the ecosystem of Bitcoin and any cryptocurrency over which a fund of similar characteristics is approved:

“ETFs fundamentally violate the underlying principle of peer-to-peer money, where each user is not operating through a custodian, but has direct control of their money because they have direct control of their keys.

Your keys? Your bitcoin. Not your keys? Not your bitcoin.

An ETF is a multi-billionaire dollar “not your keys, not your bitcoin” vehicle.”

However, he remarked on his conviction that a Bitcoin ETF would eventually be approved as there are enough economic interests to push for such instruments. Currently there are still some applications on which the SEC must rule in 2018, however it is very likely that the decisions will be postponed to 2019.

The creation of major ETFs, while harmful to the ecosystem, does not represent the death of Bitcoin, but opens the door for large institutional investors to manipulate prices on a global scale. They also allow the custodian of the Bitcoins exchanged in the ETF to have excessive voting power on key blockchain decisions.

“It’s not going to be the end of Bitcoin, it’s just going to cause manipulation of the prices. It is going to cause manipulation of the debates about scaling decisions, and if there are forks it is going to give these parties a very large determining voice in forks.

Eventually you’re going to see them split off and form their own corporate version of Bitcoin”

The custodians, by voting “on behalf of” the users, could make the most beneficial decision for their own interests, as they are the real holders of Bitcoin. Those who trade via an ETF only have instruments that emulate real Bitcoins.

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‘Soft’ Crypto ETF Alternative Now Geared Towards U.S. Investors, Says Bloomberg

A Bitcoin (BTC)-based exchange traded note (ETN) listed on the Nasdaq Stockholm exchange is now being targeted towards U.S. investors, Bloomberg reports Wednesday, August 15.

As many in the U.S. clamor to see a Bitcoin exchange-traded fund (ETF) approved by regulators, this so-called “soft” alternative has been trading on the Swedish exchange since 2015, but is now being quoted in dollars under the ticker CXBTF as of Wednesday.

The product, dubbed Bitcoin Tracker One, is still technically listed and traded in Sweden, but many consider this latest move to be a gateway for U.S. investors. As CoinShares Holdings CEO Ryan Radloff told Bloomberg:

“Everyone that’s investing in dollars can now get exposure to these products, whereas before, they were only available in euros or Swedish krona. Given the current climate on the regulatory front in the U.S., this is a big win for Bitcoin.”

As Bloomberg notes, trading Bitcoin Tracker One is now “similar to buying an American depositary receipt, in that traders will see a foreign-listed asset in U.S. dollars.” To enable this, investors reportedly purchase so-called F shares, meaning that the ETN trades are executed in dollars, but all settlement, clearing, and custody takes place in the Swedish market.

Unlike a exchange-traded fund, an ETN is a debt instrument that is backed by an issuer — like a bank — instead of being tied directly to an asset. Bloomberg notes that the ETN could appeal to investors as an alternative to Grayscale’s Bitcoin Investment Trust, another form of passive investment instrument that is currently available to those who don’t want to actually store and hold the cryptocurrency itself.

As Cointelegraph has reported, there has been significant attention devoted to the pending approval of several high-profile Bitcoin ETFs by U.S. regulators. If approved, opinions are divided as to their future impact on the crypto space. CNBC’s Ran NeuNer has ventured that once such bridges to the mainstream financial sector are in, 2017’s bull run for crypto will come to “look like a warm-up.”

Bitcoin stalwarts Andreas Antonopoulos and Nick Szabo, meanwhile, both aired ETF skepticism this week, with the latter arguing that “Wall Street-managed money… might cause more problems than it’s worth.”

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Bitcoin Holds Above $6,000 While Industry Figures Warn Over ETF ‘Benefits’

Bitcoin (BTC) prices are up around .05 percent on Thursday, August 16, bringing the leading cryptocurrency solidly back over $6,000 after a market fall that had seen BTC dip below that psychological price point on August 14.

Market visualization from Coin360

Market visualization from Coin360

Data from Cointelegraph’s price tracker shows overall 2.5 percent monthly gains for Bitcoin as of press time, despite the latest correction from it’s weekly high of around $6,600, against weekly losses of almost 10 percent.

Continuing its trend of short-term volatility, BTC/USD is currently around $6,407, with commentators eager to see if support at $6,000 has solidified.

Bitcoin’s 7-day price chart

Bitcoin’s 7-day price chart. Source: Source: Coinmarketcap

The price performance comes as the cryptocurrency industry becomes increasingly indifferent to the potential effect of a Bitcoin exchange-traded fund (ETF) acceptance or rejection by U.S. regulators.

Previously hailed as a factor which could propel or deflate markets significantly, Andreas Antonopoulos joined Nick Szabo in fresh skepticism of ETFs this week, the latter arguing they “might cause more problems than they’re worth.”

In a Q&A session recording, Antonopoulos described ETFs as “a multibillion dollar ‘not your keys, not your Bitcoin’ scheme.”

Beyond Bitcoin, altcoin worries continue, with Ethereum (ETH) gaining slightly Thursday but still continuing weekly losses close to 30 percent and monthly ones approaching 33 percent.

At press time, ETH/USD traded around $292, several percentage points off earlier lows this week which marked the largest altcoin’s biggest plunge since September 2017.

Ethereum’s 7-day price chart

Ethereum’s 7-day price chart. Source: Coinmarketcap

Other major altcoins posted broadly flat growth, with the exception of Stellar (XLM), which is down around 3 percent on the day, trading at around $0.22 by press time. Another altcoin outlier is Ethereum Classic (ETC), whose addition to Coinbase may have sent prices soaring by over 16 percent on the day, with the coin currently trading around $14.09 by press time.

Total market cap is around $207 billion by press time, a number last seen in November 2017.

Total market capitalization

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Cointelegraph’s ‘Top People in Blockchain’ Rating Released

Cointelegraph ranks the top players of cryptocurrency and Blockchain, presenting the people responsible for making our more than $400 bln industry into what it is today.

What are the criteria, you ask? Without taking any liberties, we simply calculated the number of mentions each of the participants received in the mainstream ratings, such as Forbes’ and Fortune’s.

The story of cryptocurrency and Blockchain has been one of innovators and pioneers. While there has been no shortage of starts and stops, the industry has grown from humble beginnings to a global phenomenon in less than a decade.

Last year saw remarkable growth in interest towards crypto, driving prices in the markets to record-setting highs. At one point Bitcoin has gone beyond $20,000, while other coins such as Ethereum also saw massive gains.

We owe it to dozens of innovators and advocates for helping the industry grow and turn into what it is today. Among them you’ll no doubt find familiar faces.

Bitcoin guru Andreas Antonopoulos has brought Bitcoin to the masses with his book ‘Mastering Bitcoin”. Roger Ver was one of the first investors in Blockchain and helped grow the industry as a prominent advocate.

Vitalik Buterin, while having only spent 7 years in the crypto industry, has contributed massively, helping create the second largest cryptocurrency Ethereum in 2014.

We’ve also included people in the media affecting how the world is seeing and talking about cryptocurrencies and Blockchain technology. These include such prominent advocates like Laura Shin and Perianne Boring.

See how we’ve ranked the top influencers that are shaping the future of money.

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Study: 22% of Bitcoin Investors Used Borrowed Money For Trading, Not Recommended

According to LendEDU, a personal loan research firm, more than 18 percent of Bitcoin investors have used borrowed money to trade the cryptocurrency. In a global survey of 672 active Bitcoin investors, researchers asked traders the method they used to fund their cryptocurrency trading accounts. The majority of investors used banking systems such as credit cards and ACH transfers to fund their accounts.

But 22 percent of traders revealed that they have not paid off their credit and debit cards after purchasing Bitcoin, effectively investing in the cryptocurrency with borrowed money. The report read:

“The wisest and most frugal way to fund a virtual currency exchange account would be through an ACH transfer, which is completely free of charge. Only 18.60 percent of our 672 Bitcoin-invested respondents were paying for the cryptocurrency in this fashion.

However, this was not even the most pressing concern coming from the LendEDU poll. That recognition belongs to this data-point: 22.13 percent of Bitcoin investors did not pay off their credit card balance after purchasing Bitcoin.”

Exaggerated generalization

Lately, Binance, the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, revealed that it has been adding more than 250,000 active users on a daily basis, and were forced to stop adding new users temporarily as a result. Coinbase and Bitstamp have also been adding more than 100,000 users per day and at the time of reporting, Coinbase has close to 20 mln users.

In early December, Bitstamp Co-founder and CEO Nejc Kodrič stated:

“Please understand that we currently have over 100,000 new accounts opened daily. It is challenging to cope with such surge. We are expanding our capacity to onboard clients faster, but this takes a bit of time.”

Hence, 618 Bitcoin users, is nowhere sufficient to create generalizations about the entire global Bitcoin and cryptocurrency market.

But, it is important to acknowledge that a small portion of Bitcoin investors are still trading the cryptocurrency with debt to this date, despite the advice of experts and analysts to refrain from doing so.

Only invest amount that can be lost

In June, Bitcoin and security expert Andreas Antonopoulos strongly emphasized that he only invests an amount in cryptocurrencies that he is willing to lose, given the significant risk involved in cryptocurrency trading. While the risk of investing in Bitcoin is lower than others given the size of its market, the risk for other cryptocurrencies in the global market still remains substantially high.

“I own a few different crypto assets as part of a small but diversified portfolio. I only risk as much as I’m willing to lose,” said Antonopoulos.

In a presentation at Coinscrum, an event hosted by the Imperial College London, Antonopoulos also noted that he can lose all of his investments in cryptocurrencies and still have everything else because he has invested his career, intellectual capacity, and work in Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market.

For casual investors and newcomers, it is extremely risky to obtain debt to invest in a particular asset and this is not exclusive to Bitcoin. It does not matter which asset it is, becoming in debt to invest in a particular asset or asset class is highly risky.

“My small savings that I do have are invested in Bitcoin. 100 percent [of it]. I actually have a tiny debt in US dollars that I’m still trying to pay off, so it is more than 100 percent in Bitcoin. Now, I’d like to emphasize again, that is not a recommendation to invest. Because I haven’t invested my money in Bitcoin, I invested my career, my intellectual capacity, my creativity energy, my passion, and my work in Bitcoin. The money is the least of the investment that I have made in Bitcoin and I could lose everything of it and I’d still have everything else,” Antonopoulos explained.

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JPMorgan Guilty of Money Laundering, Tried To Hide Swiss Regulator Judgement

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon is facing irony this week after calling Bitcoin a fraud – as the bank’s Swiss arm is sanctioned for fraud.

Reports from local media outlet Die Handelszeitung relate how the Swiss regulator Finma had ruled JPMorgan was guilty of money laundering in June.

A legal battle then ensued, with Dimon’s giant attempting to prevent the publication of Finma’s judgment.

This month, however, the law ruled against it, but details of the extent of the wrongdoing remain sketchy.

The news is especially amusing to Bitcoin proponents, who watched as Dimon’s accusations that the virtual currency was a “fraud” sent it into temporary freefall in September.

Commentators such as Andreas Antonopoulos were quick to jump on the gratifying reversal of fortune, the cryptocurrency expert telling the audience during a Q&A session this week that “Jamie doth protest too much methinks.”

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“It’s interesting how the head of the largest investment bank in the world finds time in his very busy day to speak about a ‘nothing;’ an irrelevant little technology that has no impact on the world,” he added. “It’s almost disconcerting that he would pay so much attention.”

Dimon had followed his outburst against Bitcoin several weeks later with an announcement he would “no longer talk about it,” while other senior figures at the bank said it was “open-minded” in its treatment of the technology.

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Andreas Antonopoulos: ICOs Are ‘Total Shit Right Now, Revolutionary In 15 Years’

ICOs will “ripple out like a tsunami” and disrupt the entire financial industry in 15 years, Andreas Antonopoulos has said. He also described “99.999 percent” of ICOs currently on the market as “shit.”

Speaking at the Advanced Digital Innovation Summit in Vancouver earlier this month, the celebrated educator said that the current climate of knee-jerk regulation was ultimately a “futile” attempt at controlling participation in the “revolutionary” new investment model.

“It is unstoppable, it is enormous and it is going to shake the world,” he said.

“…99.999 perent of ICOs right now are shit. They are complete junk; they will return nothing.”

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Antonopoulos made the comments Sept. 12 amid fresh revelations from China, which had just issued a blanket ban on ICOs and required completed sales to return funds to investors.

The knock-on effect saw South Korea also voice strong concerns about digital token offerings, while other international regulators reiterated the need for offerings to undergo vetting on a case-by-case basis.

Taking in the longer-term picture, however, Antonopoulos remained convinced the phenomenon was only getting started, and that regulators “do not have the means” either to keep up with it or enforce their requirements.

“The rules as they exist cannot possibly keep up with the volume, liquidity and movement of innovation in this space,” he said.

“… Regulators are being disrupted more than anything else; they are rapidly being ‘obsoleted.’ They have the desire, they have the authority; they do not have the means.”

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Why Millennials Keep Bitcoin for Rainy Days

Bitcoin has a huge appeal to millennials who dream of a cashless future, and now they’re putting savings into Bitcoin rather than traditional funds.

The digital currency has already turned early adopters into millionaires, been marketed by Ashton Kutcher and Paris Hilton, and stands for everything that millennials are jaded about in terms of traditional markets and investments.

Foundations of old finance shaken

While those who are using and involved in Bitcoin still make up less than a percent of the population, there’s a growing number of young people in the millennial generation who are turning away from traditional financial empires.

If this trend continues, it could spell the eventual end of the banker, as they go the same way as the travel agent and the library.

Roshaan Khan, a 20-year-old senior at Virginia Commonwealth University, is one of those millennials. Khan recently invested in Bitcoin and Ethereum — another form of cryptocurrency — and is encouraging his friends to do the same.

“All of my net worth is in cryptocurrencies, because I see them as the best way to escalate my ability to be financially secure and pay off my student loans,” Khan said. “I like the idea of decentralization, the fact that there’s a lot less corruption and political ties. That idea appeals to me … Not having to go through banks. Having financial control over our lives again.”

No bankers go to jail

Andreas M. Antonopoulos, the author of Mastering Bitcoin and The Internet of Money, is familiar with this mistrust. The idea of Internet money makes sense in today’s world and appeals to the new generation, but more than that, it is a system that has not betrayed millennials.

“When you talk to millennials who have been thoroughly disappointed by every single social institution — the government, the church, the politics, the parties — they can’t trust anyone anymore,” Antonopoulos said.

“They remember 2008, because it was the first big crash they’ve had, and many millennials have been unable to find work. They saw no bankers go to jail.”

In control of investments

There is still some way to go until even the most hardened millennial is totally free of traditional banking and money institutions, but they can control their own future in relation to investments.

“It feels better to run my own savings plan by investing and reinvesting in new technology,” said Emil Thorsplass, a 24-year-old musician from Norway:

“I still have my regular pension fund and my bills still have to be paid through a bank account, but cryptocurrency investments have become a central part of savings for me.”

Fear of volatility?

Thorsplass adds, in relation to a question that always crops up with regards to investing in Bitcoin, how he deals with the volatility.

“I don’t get very nervous about the volatility anymore,” Thorsplass, who’s made close to $5,000 since investing in 2015, said. “I think that when you are in your twenties, with limited responsibility, investing most of what you have into something isn’t that dramatic compared to what it might be for more established adults. I’m used to taking risks, so when I have a gut feeling I like to pull the trigger.”

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Bitcoin Price Drops to $4,300, What’s Next: Factors and Trends

Subsequent to achieving a new all-time high at $4,975 merely two days ago, Bitcoin price has decreased to around $4,350.

Many analysts including Welt financial desk senior editor Holger Zschaepitz attributed the decline in Bitcoin price to China’s recent crackdown on initial coin offerings (ICOs).


SegWit working its magic yet?

Over the past week, prominent financial analysts such as RT’s Max Keiser predicted Bitcoin price to increase at an exponential rate in consideration of the successful integration of the Bitcoin Core development team’s transaction malleability and scaling solution Segregated Witness (SegWit).

Through SegWit, the Bitcoin network has already shown tremendous progress in terms of scaling, reducing its average block size to 0.8 MB and its mempool size from over 140 mln to 10 mln bytes.

Bitcoin users utilizing SegWit-enabled wallets such as Trezor and Ledger are expected to enjoy substantially lower fees, with an average reduction rate of around 35 percent.

Andreas Antonopoulos, widely recognized Bitcoin and security expert, noted that a $0.34 fee was sufficient to send a transaction to an employee and include it in the first block.

That means, with SegWit, Antonopoulos and many other users can send transactions that are confirmed within minutes with a fee less than $0.5.

On Sept. 1, Keiser changed his interim price target from $5,000 to $10,000, as Bitcoin’s momentum indicators demonstrated sustainable upward trend for the mid-term.

More to that, in terms of development, especially the adoption of SegWit and the introduction of Lightning Network-based applications, there were many reasons for analysts to be extremely optimistic about Bitcoin.

Here comes China

Still, in the mid-term, Bitcoin will likely outperform other cryptocurrencies, fiat currencies and assets drastically.

If it successfully recovers its recent minor correction caused by PBoC and the Chinese government’s crackdown on ICOs, it could lead yet another strong rally and break past the $5,000 mark.

As Keiser explained, $5,000 and even $10,000 is in sight due to the tremendous amount of development and activity surrounding the Bitcoin network.

More to that, Brian Kelly of CNBC, Keiser, and Litecoin creator Charlie Lee have emphasized the importance of Bitcoin to conventional investors and the traditional finance sector as safe haven assets.

With tension amongst North Korea, the US, South Korea, Japan and China increasing rapidly, the demand for Bitcoin will likely skyrocket in the upcoming weeks.

Additionally, Jihan Wu, Bitmain co-founder, who holds significant influence over the Chinese mining industry, noted that Bitcoin is still legal in China and its legality has not and will not be changed due to the government’s investigation into the local ICO market.